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		<title>2 reasons to love hubpages and 1 reason to hate it</title>
		<link>http://netrat.com/blog/2-reasons-to-love-hubpages-and-1-reason-to-hate-it/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>HubPages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Alan:

Sorry it took me so long to see your response here.

It was not my intention to call you a spammer.  Marking a hub as overly promotional is not the same as labeling or insulting someone.

I'd like you to note that I do not run any ads on the hub I linked to on my previous post.  It is solely for informational purposes.

We're doing all we can to weed out hubs with links to "bad" domains, as well as those that promote illegal downloads or any other violation of AdSense terms of service.  Please note again, as I stated above, that HubPages has only had a full-time moderator (me) for a few months, and there are literally thousands of hubs to sort through.  You can help by flagging any objectionable material you see on the site.

I appreciate your willingness to participate in dialogue about this matter, and HubPages does recognize the contributions that some internet marketers have made to our community.  However, we need to stick to a set of guidelines that apply to everyone, for consistancy's and efficiency's sake.  I hope you understand.

Best,

Maddie Ruud, HubPages.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Alan:</p>
<p>Sorry it took me so long to see your response here.</p>
<p>It was not my intention to call you a spammer.  Marking a hub as overly promotional is not the same as labeling or insulting someone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like you to note that I do not run any ads on the hub I linked to on my previous post.  It is solely for informational purposes.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re doing all we can to weed out hubs with links to &#8220;bad&#8221; domains, as well as those that promote illegal downloads or any other violation of AdSense terms of service.  Please note again, as I stated above, that HubPages has only had a full-time moderator (me) for a few months, and there are literally thousands of hubs to sort through.  You can help by flagging any objectionable material you see on the site.</p>
<p>I appreciate your willingness to participate in dialogue about this matter, and HubPages does recognize the contributions that some internet marketers have made to our community.  However, we need to stick to a set of guidelines that apply to everyone, for consistancy&#8217;s and efficiency&#8217;s sake.  I hope you understand.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Maddie Ruud, HubPages.com</p>
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		<title>2 reasons to love hubpages and 1 reason to hate it</title>
		<link>http://netrat.com/blog/2-reasons-to-love-hubpages-and-1-reason-to-hate-it/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Hood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maddie,

I appreciate that you took the time to respond.  I have to ask how you found the site though.  I have nothing against you or hubpages at all you are free to run your site any way that you see fit.  And it is good that there is someone looking over the quality of content at hubpages, because quite frankly there are a lot of SPAM problems with a site like hubpages.

While I will admit that the hub in question is promotional, I do not feel that it was overly promotional and fell outside of the guidelines provided.  From the message I first received it was flagged as a deceptive title. The title being “how to build a website” could always be flagged as deceptive if someone were naïve enough to believe that any single article or hub would cover everything that goes into building a website.  But now it is clear that it is not being published because it is considered overly promotional.  I fully disagree, and feel that the article has quality content for building a website the right way with advice that a website owner should have their own product to sell.  Which is solid advice and any true marketer would agree.

I know what I have done to anger the “in” crowd at hubpages and I am okay with that I knew what was going to happen when I did it.  But look at this situation from my perspective.  The hubpages article was the last in a group that had been daisy chained from 2 other sites.  What that means to me is that the hubpages article and then my website should benefit greatly from those other 2 links.  From hubpages perspective they should want to encourage marketers that are going to take the time to link to their site from other relevant sources and not just from digg and other social book marking sites, it will help them and their PR long term.

I am glad that hubpages wants to run a cleaner site; it will benefit everyone moving forward, but as a last piece of advice.  Start looking at all of the links that hubpages is sending out to warez and piracy sites.  Intentionally allowing links to download this new release movie over the internet now sites will hurt when google catches on to it.  There are literally thousands of links to sites that steal other peoples intellectual property going out from hubpages.  I would hate to see hubpages get slapped the way squidoo did, because I have a lot of article there that I count on and I am sure so do a lot of other people.  I got hurt with the squidoo slap just like everyone else.

There are different perspectives of what is spam and what is not spam.  I would call you linking to a personal article at hubpages from my blog SPAM when you come here as an official representative.  If it were a link to an official hubpages FAQ that would be a different story, but you directly benefit from that link.  But in the spirit of open dialogue I approved the comment, where normally I would not.  I hope you understand my frustration, and know that I have done many things to benefit the hubpages site over all and that and basically being called a spammer is why it is so frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maddie,</p>
<p>I appreciate that you took the time to respond.  I have to ask how you found the site though.  I have nothing against you or hubpages at all you are free to run your site any way that you see fit.  And it is good that there is someone looking over the quality of content at hubpages, because quite frankly there are a lot of SPAM problems with a site like hubpages.</p>
<p>While I will admit that the hub in question is promotional, I do not feel that it was overly promotional and fell outside of the guidelines provided.  From the message I first received it was flagged as a deceptive title. The title being “how to build a website” could always be flagged as deceptive if someone were naïve enough to believe that any single article or hub would cover everything that goes into building a website.  But now it is clear that it is not being published because it is considered overly promotional.  I fully disagree, and feel that the article has quality content for building a website the right way with advice that a website owner should have their own product to sell.  Which is solid advice and any true marketer would agree.</p>
<p>I know what I have done to anger the “in” crowd at hubpages and I am okay with that I knew what was going to happen when I did it.  But look at this situation from my perspective.  The hubpages article was the last in a group that had been daisy chained from 2 other sites.  What that means to me is that the hubpages article and then my website should benefit greatly from those other 2 links.  From hubpages perspective they should want to encourage marketers that are going to take the time to link to their site from other relevant sources and not just from digg and other social book marking sites, it will help them and their PR long term.</p>
<p>I am glad that hubpages wants to run a cleaner site; it will benefit everyone moving forward, but as a last piece of advice.  Start looking at all of the links that hubpages is sending out to warez and piracy sites.  Intentionally allowing links to download this new release movie over the internet now sites will hurt when google catches on to it.  There are literally thousands of links to sites that steal other peoples intellectual property going out from hubpages.  I would hate to see hubpages get slapped the way squidoo did, because I have a lot of article there that I count on and I am sure so do a lot of other people.  I got hurt with the squidoo slap just like everyone else.</p>
<p>There are different perspectives of what is spam and what is not spam.  I would call you linking to a personal article at hubpages from my blog SPAM when you come here as an official representative.  If it were a link to an official hubpages FAQ that would be a different story, but you directly benefit from that link.  But in the spirit of open dialogue I approved the comment, where normally I would not.  I hope you understand my frustration, and know that I have done many things to benefit the hubpages site over all and that and basically being called a spammer is why it is so frustrating.</p>
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		<title>2 reasons to love hubpages and 1 reason to hate it</title>
		<link>http://netrat.com/blog/2-reasons-to-love-hubpages-and-1-reason-to-hate-it/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddie Ruud, HubPages.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

You may know me as the Community Manager over at HubPages, and I thought I'd throw in my two cents.  I'm familiar with your work, and I notice when looking at your account that, except for once recently, the few times you've been flagged all happened a good 6 months ago. It's only recently that HubPages brought someone (me) on fulltime to do moderation work.  These days, it usually takes less than 24 hours to get your hub reviewed and republished, assuming you made the necessary changes.

In addition, it's worth noting that there are multiple criteria for an overly promotional hub, including a hub that simply points to an article or post on another site without adding any real content to the topic on HubPages itself.

For more reasons a hub may be flagged as overly promotional, check out a hub I myself wrote to clarify the issue:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Overly-Promotional

I hope you'll continue to publish with HubPages, despite the frustrations you're feeling regarding some of our members.

Best,

Maddie Ruud, HubPages.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>You may know me as the Community Manager over at HubPages, and I thought I&#8217;d throw in my two cents.  I&#8217;m familiar with your work, and I notice when looking at your account that, except for once recently, the few times you&#8217;ve been flagged all happened a good 6 months ago. It&#8217;s only recently that HubPages brought someone (me) on fulltime to do moderation work.  These days, it usually takes less than 24 hours to get your hub reviewed and republished, assuming you made the necessary changes.</p>
<p>In addition, it&#8217;s worth noting that there are multiple criteria for an overly promotional hub, including a hub that simply points to an article or post on another site without adding any real content to the topic on HubPages itself.</p>
<p>For more reasons a hub may be flagged as overly promotional, check out a hub I myself wrote to clarify the issue:<br />
<a href="http://hubpages.com/hub/Overly-Promotional" rel="nofollow">http://hubpages.com/hub/Overly-Promotional</a></p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll continue to publish with HubPages, despite the frustrations you&#8217;re feeling regarding some of our members.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Maddie Ruud, HubPages.com</p>
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